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		<title>Comment on How to Kill Your Fraternity by DTD1356</title>
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		<description>My fraternity went through a re-org about 10 years ago. The house at the time was full of drug addicts and just bad guys. I believe about 40 men were expelled by 7 good guys. They were threatened that the chapter would be shut down if they didn&#039;t recruit enough to pay bills. What ended up happening was that they recruited a bunch of guys (I believe about 30) to pay bills. The next few years involved a continual re-organization: recruiting a lot of guys because they needed to fill spots ASAP and then cutting about half of them because they were crap. This took about 5-6 years. Now, my chapter is in the top 10 of our fraternity nationally, has had the highest grades on campus for the past 5 years etc. We look back at our re-organization as a rebirth, something that saved us in a way. 

My advice would be to 
1) Look for guys that are values oriented, and recruit them that way. We do what is called &quot;mission and values recruitment&quot; where we find guys through the prospect of a cohesive moral community, not the prospect of chicks and beer
2) Find a member who you can mold into yourself to replace you. There will always be a need for someone to keep the goals of the chapter in mind. If you can&#039;t find an individual like this, try to stay in close contact with the chapter/recruiting after you graduate.

Best of luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fraternity went through a re-org about 10 years ago. The house at the time was full of drug addicts and just bad guys. I believe about 40 men were expelled by 7 good guys. They were threatened that the chapter would be shut down if they didn&#8217;t recruit enough to pay bills. What ended up happening was that they recruited a bunch of guys (I believe about 30) to pay bills. The next few years involved a continual re-organization: recruiting a lot of guys because they needed to fill spots ASAP and then cutting about half of them because they were crap. This took about 5-6 years. Now, my chapter is in the top 10 of our fraternity nationally, has had the highest grades on campus for the past 5 years etc. We look back at our re-organization as a rebirth, something that saved us in a way. </p>
<p>My advice would be to<br />
1) Look for guys that are values oriented, and recruit them that way. We do what is called &#8220;mission and values recruitment&#8221; where we find guys through the prospect of a cohesive moral community, not the prospect of chicks and beer<br />
2) Find a member who you can mold into yourself to replace you. There will always be a need for someone to keep the goals of the chapter in mind. If you can&#8217;t find an individual like this, try to stay in close contact with the chapter/recruiting after you graduate.</p>
<p>Best of luck</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Get Accepted by the IFC by pat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, thank you for explaining that.  It makes sense that the NIC has no power of university IFCs, but they are promoting fraternity growth.  Also, I agree about the lack of value in the IFC.  That sounds like a good topic for a future article...</description>
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		<title>Comment on How to Get Accepted by the IFC by Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s basing that on a common misunderstanding of what NIC is and what it&#039;s bylaws say. I&#039;ve talked to their staff about this within the last year. My godfather is a former NIC President and echoed the same thing. 

Before I explain this, I&#039;ll clarify that there are a couple exceptions to what I&#039;m about to say. A couple national fraternities have adopted the NIC open expansion position as part of their national bylaws and do require chapters to vote in favor of all instances of expansion regardless of consequences. However, in most cases it is still a local discretion issues, which it should be. 

NIC is not the nationals of any IFC and does not have authority over any fraternity. It is strictly a trade association for the national organizations of fraternities. It does research, education, and national advocacy. Article II of their constitution specifically says the sovereignty and self-determination of national fraternities has primacy over anything NIC does, including their constitution/bylaws. 

In other words, representatives from each member national get together and make suggestions for common standards that no one is required to follow even if they agree to them. NIC has no enforcement power other than to vote a fraternity out of the association if it is so massively violating agreed standards on the national level that the group can no longer tolerate it. 

If that sounds like I&#039;m negative on NIC, I&#039;m not. They are a great organization doing some good things in the fraternity movement. They provide the leadership that assembles fraternities together to work on their mutual interests. But, what I admire most about them is they know what&#039;s important - and that&#039;s the sovereignty of each individual fraternity. They do not attempt to boss fraternities around. They seek common ground on which they can get unanimous agreement and they leave it to each fraternity to interpret for themselves how to apply those agreements on a day-to-day or strategic basis. 

More specific to their bylaws though, article XIII states some standards for member nationals. 

Section 1 states membership requirements for a national to be part of NIC. Anything not on this list is not a requirement. Expansion is not listed. 

Section 2 states standard/expectations. It starts by saying, &quot;nothing in the NIC Standards shall be interpreted as implying that a NIC member organization has a duty to supervise, direct, or control collegiate students or chapters associated with that member organization.&quot; 

In other words, it is expected that the following standards be the position of each national headquarters, but they are not expected to enforce those standards on subordinate chapters. Only if headquarters massively violates those standards on a nationwide basis with such severity that all other nationals vote to eject them from NIC can any action be taken. 

One of those standards states, &quot;Member&#039;s chapters agree to and support open expansion on their respective campuses (implemented no later than September 1, 2004)&quot; 

In other words, NIC suggests that each national take the position of advising, but not necessarily ordering, their subordinate chapters to support open expansion on their campus. So what does open expansion mean? 

Later in section 2, under the heading &quot;Campus Expectations,&quot; they suggest wording. It says, &quot;No NIC member organization is prohibited from selecting undergraduates for the purpose of establishing a chapter on the campus of the host institution.  The host institution&#039;s Interfraternity Council may not deter expansion by withholding membership of NIC group from IFC.&quot;

What that means is nationals do not need permission of a campus or IFC to start a colony; and, IFC should not block expansion by denying IFC membership. Again mind you, they have no authority over IFCs, national fraternities, undergraduate chapters, or schools. They&#039;re just making a statement. 

If you will read the remainder of their bylaws, you&#039;ll see several statements that sound like they&#039;re issuing orders to nationals, IFCs, chapters, and schools. The very next item for instance is open recruitment. It says schools and IFCs are not to set any minimum standards (ex academic, disciplinary) on who can or cannot join fraternities. I think just about every IFC and school in the country has such standards, and well they should. 

Legalese aside, I&#039;d like to take a second on the philosophy of expansion policy. 

NIC is doing their job. They&#039;re pushing for the widest possible freedom for their member nationals. That&#039;s what they&#039;re there for. The only people voting are national executive directors. There is no voice for universities, chapters, or advisors. Of course their position is going to be to massively empower nationals to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences and leave it to them to decide. That doesn&#039;t mean such a total unrestricted position is what should actually happen. All policy requires balance. 

I think we can all agree that adding 50 colonies at once would destroy a Greek system. The demand doesn&#039;t support it. Each organization will not be able to sustain enough members to survive. Many charters would be lost. If we agree on that point, then we already concede that unrestricted open expansion is bad. Our conversation is about where to draw the line. 

NIC will tell you that most times expansion is blocked it&#039;s about protecting existing weak chapters. They believe no chapter deserves protection. That if a struggling chapter can&#039;t hold enough market share to survive in the face of more competitors entering the market then it should die to make room for someone else to have a shot. 

I come at this from a business perspective. The simple fact is that fraternities are a business. They are required to abide by a very strict set of rules which make the cost of operation very high. That cost varies widely from campus to campus based on the local cost of doing business and regulatory environment. Based on your student body, the market will bear a maximum dues rate. The only variable is chapter size, and the only thing we have going for us is economies of scale. If you don&#039;t maintain a minimum chapter size need to finance operating by all the rules, then you die. It&#039;s not exactly that cut and dry. What actually happens is you&#039;re forced to break the rules or die. That leads to massive disciplinary issues, dangerous behavior, and ultimately injuries &amp; deaths. From a business perspective, chapter size is the holy grail of essential survival factors. 

When you consider expansion, you need to have a very strong handle on that cost structure to chapter size dynamic. If you&#039;re talking about one or two struggling chapters can&#039;t reach that chapter size, then that&#039;s where NIC&#039;s logic makes sense. But, if almost no one can meet those survival standards, then over expansion is just slightly more damaging than shooting yourself in the face. 

Expansion has to be done in a reasonable and controlled way. You need to develop market demand first, and then capture that excess demand with a new competitor in the market. A colony will initially recruit outside the rush pool and will for a short time raise the overall number of Greeks, but after chartering it will enter the zero-sum market at the cost of chapter averages. Grow the rush pool, then expand as needed to meet the demand. 

As to the original question though, Pat is spot on. 

I would reinforce his final statement there... formal association with a most universities is bad. They don&#039;t give you anything of value and almost everything they do with Greeks will be harmful to you. That said, you probably have no choice. As a colony, I would imagine your nationals requires you to gain acceptance from IFC and to be a registered student org. They fully know that university administrators are a constant thorn in our side, but they also only have the resources to send one young underpaid overworked staff member to visit you for a couple days a year. They need people on the ground watching you more closely or things will get out of control and they&#039;ll be destroyed in lawsuits. They appoint advisors (like me) to look after their interests. While those guys probably have much more business, organizational, and life expertise than anyone else you&#039;ll work with, they also have full-time jobs and families to distract them from watching your every move. As an advisor, I hate association with the Universities I work with, but I begrudgingly accept that it is a necessary evil. IFCs can be the same, but are generally a much more positive interfraternal experience. 

Explain to your members the lack of value in IFC membership. That should help retain them through this setback. But, reinforce that it is a necessary requirement to charter. Then do what Pat says and you should be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s basing that on a common misunderstanding of what NIC is and what it&#8217;s bylaws say. I&#8217;ve talked to their staff about this within the last year. My godfather is a former NIC President and echoed the same thing. </p>
<p>Before I explain this, I&#8217;ll clarify that there are a couple exceptions to what I&#8217;m about to say. A couple national fraternities have adopted the NIC open expansion position as part of their national bylaws and do require chapters to vote in favor of all instances of expansion regardless of consequences. However, in most cases it is still a local discretion issues, which it should be. </p>
<p>NIC is not the nationals of any IFC and does not have authority over any fraternity. It is strictly a trade association for the national organizations of fraternities. It does research, education, and national advocacy. Article II of their constitution specifically says the sovereignty and self-determination of national fraternities has primacy over anything NIC does, including their constitution/bylaws. </p>
<p>In other words, representatives from each member national get together and make suggestions for common standards that no one is required to follow even if they agree to them. NIC has no enforcement power other than to vote a fraternity out of the association if it is so massively violating agreed standards on the national level that the group can no longer tolerate it. </p>
<p>If that sounds like I&#8217;m negative on NIC, I&#8217;m not. They are a great organization doing some good things in the fraternity movement. They provide the leadership that assembles fraternities together to work on their mutual interests. But, what I admire most about them is they know what&#8217;s important &#8211; and that&#8217;s the sovereignty of each individual fraternity. They do not attempt to boss fraternities around. They seek common ground on which they can get unanimous agreement and they leave it to each fraternity to interpret for themselves how to apply those agreements on a day-to-day or strategic basis. </p>
<p>More specific to their bylaws though, article XIII states some standards for member nationals. </p>
<p>Section 1 states membership requirements for a national to be part of NIC. Anything not on this list is not a requirement. Expansion is not listed. </p>
<p>Section 2 states standard/expectations. It starts by saying, &#8220;nothing in the NIC Standards shall be interpreted as implying that a NIC member organization has a duty to supervise, direct, or control collegiate students or chapters associated with that member organization.&#8221; </p>
<p>In other words, it is expected that the following standards be the position of each national headquarters, but they are not expected to enforce those standards on subordinate chapters. Only if headquarters massively violates those standards on a nationwide basis with such severity that all other nationals vote to eject them from NIC can any action be taken. </p>
<p>One of those standards states, &#8220;Member&#8217;s chapters agree to and support open expansion on their respective campuses (implemented no later than September 1, 2004)&#8221; </p>
<p>In other words, NIC suggests that each national take the position of advising, but not necessarily ordering, their subordinate chapters to support open expansion on their campus. So what does open expansion mean? </p>
<p>Later in section 2, under the heading &#8220;Campus Expectations,&#8221; they suggest wording. It says, &#8220;No NIC member organization is prohibited from selecting undergraduates for the purpose of establishing a chapter on the campus of the host institution.  The host institution&#8217;s Interfraternity Council may not deter expansion by withholding membership of NIC group from IFC.&#8221;</p>
<p>What that means is nationals do not need permission of a campus or IFC to start a colony; and, IFC should not block expansion by denying IFC membership. Again mind you, they have no authority over IFCs, national fraternities, undergraduate chapters, or schools. They&#8217;re just making a statement. </p>
<p>If you will read the remainder of their bylaws, you&#8217;ll see several statements that sound like they&#8217;re issuing orders to nationals, IFCs, chapters, and schools. The very next item for instance is open recruitment. It says schools and IFCs are not to set any minimum standards (ex academic, disciplinary) on who can or cannot join fraternities. I think just about every IFC and school in the country has such standards, and well they should. </p>
<p>Legalese aside, I&#8217;d like to take a second on the philosophy of expansion policy. </p>
<p>NIC is doing their job. They&#8217;re pushing for the widest possible freedom for their member nationals. That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re there for. The only people voting are national executive directors. There is no voice for universities, chapters, or advisors. Of course their position is going to be to massively empower nationals to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences and leave it to them to decide. That doesn&#8217;t mean such a total unrestricted position is what should actually happen. All policy requires balance. </p>
<p>I think we can all agree that adding 50 colonies at once would destroy a Greek system. The demand doesn&#8217;t support it. Each organization will not be able to sustain enough members to survive. Many charters would be lost. If we agree on that point, then we already concede that unrestricted open expansion is bad. Our conversation is about where to draw the line. </p>
<p>NIC will tell you that most times expansion is blocked it&#8217;s about protecting existing weak chapters. They believe no chapter deserves protection. That if a struggling chapter can&#8217;t hold enough market share to survive in the face of more competitors entering the market then it should die to make room for someone else to have a shot. </p>
<p>I come at this from a business perspective. The simple fact is that fraternities are a business. They are required to abide by a very strict set of rules which make the cost of operation very high. That cost varies widely from campus to campus based on the local cost of doing business and regulatory environment. Based on your student body, the market will bear a maximum dues rate. The only variable is chapter size, and the only thing we have going for us is economies of scale. If you don&#8217;t maintain a minimum chapter size need to finance operating by all the rules, then you die. It&#8217;s not exactly that cut and dry. What actually happens is you&#8217;re forced to break the rules or die. That leads to massive disciplinary issues, dangerous behavior, and ultimately injuries &amp; deaths. From a business perspective, chapter size is the holy grail of essential survival factors. </p>
<p>When you consider expansion, you need to have a very strong handle on that cost structure to chapter size dynamic. If you&#8217;re talking about one or two struggling chapters can&#8217;t reach that chapter size, then that&#8217;s where NIC&#8217;s logic makes sense. But, if almost no one can meet those survival standards, then over expansion is just slightly more damaging than shooting yourself in the face. </p>
<p>Expansion has to be done in a reasonable and controlled way. You need to develop market demand first, and then capture that excess demand with a new competitor in the market. A colony will initially recruit outside the rush pool and will for a short time raise the overall number of Greeks, but after chartering it will enter the zero-sum market at the cost of chapter averages. Grow the rush pool, then expand as needed to meet the demand. </p>
<p>As to the original question though, Pat is spot on. </p>
<p>I would reinforce his final statement there&#8230; formal association with a most universities is bad. They don&#8217;t give you anything of value and almost everything they do with Greeks will be harmful to you. That said, you probably have no choice. As a colony, I would imagine your nationals requires you to gain acceptance from IFC and to be a registered student org. They fully know that university administrators are a constant thorn in our side, but they also only have the resources to send one young underpaid overworked staff member to visit you for a couple days a year. They need people on the ground watching you more closely or things will get out of control and they&#8217;ll be destroyed in lawsuits. They appoint advisors (like me) to look after their interests. While those guys probably have much more business, organizational, and life expertise than anyone else you&#8217;ll work with, they also have full-time jobs and families to distract them from watching your every move. As an advisor, I hate association with the Universities I work with, but I begrudgingly accept that it is a necessary evil. IFCs can be the same, but are generally a much more positive interfraternal experience. </p>
<p>Explain to your members the lack of value in IFC membership. That should help retain them through this setback. But, reinforce that it is a necessary requirement to charter. Then do what Pat says and you should be fine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Members – Know Your Place in the Fraternity by pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - glad you found the site and find it helpful.  Feel free to contact me anytime.  Use the About Me tab above to send me an email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; glad you found the site and find it helpful.  Feel free to contact me anytime.  Use the About Me tab above to send me an email.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Members – Know Your Place in the Fraternity by Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was by chance that I encountered your articles and site today. As a recently elected President of my local fraternity, I fully intend to use some of the many insights you provide. We&#039;ve encountered a number of poor years, representation, numbers, etc. for the last decade or so. The advice and articles you have written speak directly to many of the issues myself and the preceding president have encountered while forming a higher vision and establishing a respectable fraternity, rather than a &#039;social club&#039; as you reference many times.
I would enjoy corresponding at some point if possible.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was by chance that I encountered your articles and site today. As a recently elected President of my local fraternity, I fully intend to use some of the many insights you provide. We&#8217;ve encountered a number of poor years, representation, numbers, etc. for the last decade or so. The advice and articles you have written speak directly to many of the issues myself and the preceding president have encountered while forming a higher vision and establishing a respectable fraternity, rather than a &#8216;social club&#8217; as you reference many times.<br />
I would enjoy corresponding at some point if possible.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Get Accepted by the IFC by pat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you base that on? It would make perfect sense, but I know of many, many instances where that simply isn&#039;t true.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, don&#039;t forget that almost all of these fraternities are NIC fraternities most likely. That means, nationally and locally, they are obliged to vote yes on all expansions and membership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that almost all of these fraternities are NIC fraternities most likely. That means, nationally and locally, they are obliged to vote yes on all expansions and membership.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is There a Place for the Dry Guy in Greek Life? by Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush is difficult. Most freshmen show up looking for the party. They don&#039;t remotely understand what fraternities actually are or what they have to offer. Fraternities know they have to sell their social side. They might try to show off other aspects too, but if they don&#039;t sell social then they&#039;re out of business. That&#039;s a fake front. Behind that curtain, they really are evaluating character and beliefs. They are looking at a rushee&#039;s potential. Social really is a small part of who they are and the brotherhood they share. So, for a rushee who doesn&#039;t drink it might be difficult to dig past the canned sales pitch to see what&#039;s underneath, but it&#039;s worth the investigation. 

While I have a hard time believing this is true, I&#039;ve seen national stats that say 20% of fraternity members don&#039;t drink at all. I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re all going to some uber conservative private christian school somewhere or something, but you do come across these guys more than you would think. I would say if you handle it like the example Pat gave, a guy that fully participates in the party but just happens not to drink, then you&#039;ll be happily accepted. If you don&#039;t come to parties or you bring everyone down while you&#039;re there then that&#039;s not so good. I would also say it&#039;s not right for you to be the all time DD. No one wants to sign on for that. It&#039;s good that you don&#039;t drink and help out from time to time, but there&#039;s a rotation for a reason. 

Anyway, good luck. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll find a good fit. In fact, by not being so obsessed with the social aspects, you&#039;ll probably pay more attention to the stuff that actually means something and find yourself a better fit than a lot of people going through rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush is difficult. Most freshmen show up looking for the party. They don&#8217;t remotely understand what fraternities actually are or what they have to offer. Fraternities know they have to sell their social side. They might try to show off other aspects too, but if they don&#8217;t sell social then they&#8217;re out of business. That&#8217;s a fake front. Behind that curtain, they really are evaluating character and beliefs. They are looking at a rushee&#8217;s potential. Social really is a small part of who they are and the brotherhood they share. So, for a rushee who doesn&#8217;t drink it might be difficult to dig past the canned sales pitch to see what&#8217;s underneath, but it&#8217;s worth the investigation. </p>
<p>While I have a hard time believing this is true, I&#8217;ve seen national stats that say 20% of fraternity members don&#8217;t drink at all. I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re all going to some uber conservative private christian school somewhere or something, but you do come across these guys more than you would think. I would say if you handle it like the example Pat gave, a guy that fully participates in the party but just happens not to drink, then you&#8217;ll be happily accepted. If you don&#8217;t come to parties or you bring everyone down while you&#8217;re there then that&#8217;s not so good. I would also say it&#8217;s not right for you to be the all time DD. No one wants to sign on for that. It&#8217;s good that you don&#8217;t drink and help out from time to time, but there&#8217;s a rotation for a reason. </p>
<p>Anyway, good luck. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll find a good fit. In fact, by not being so obsessed with the social aspects, you&#8217;ll probably pay more attention to the stuff that actually means something and find yourself a better fit than a lot of people going through rush.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Total Frat Move – Good or Bad? by Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, shouldn&#039;t you take a page out of your own book then, since you&#039;re spewing ignorance and your own ridiculous opinions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, shouldn&#8217;t you take a page out of your own book then, since you&#8217;re spewing ignorance and your own ridiculous opinions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Keys to Pitching a Dues Increase to Your Fraternity Membership by Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have time for a bigger discussion at the moment, but chapter business operations is the biggest thing I think chapters don&#039;t have a handle on. And also the thing that if you&#039;re able to learn from can most benefit you in the business world beyond. 

To go one step further with recruiting, it is better to recruit your way into better financial shape than to overburden a lesser number of guys. Why are you raising dues? Can you not afford to operate because you don&#039;t have the economies of scale? If you increased chapter size by 30% at the same dues rate, would you still need to raise dues to afford the slightly larger versions of events or would the extra income be enough? You need a solid understanding of this issue that you can express to members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time for a bigger discussion at the moment, but chapter business operations is the biggest thing I think chapters don&#8217;t have a handle on. And also the thing that if you&#8217;re able to learn from can most benefit you in the business world beyond. </p>
<p>To go one step further with recruiting, it is better to recruit your way into better financial shape than to overburden a lesser number of guys. Why are you raising dues? Can you not afford to operate because you don&#8217;t have the economies of scale? If you increased chapter size by 30% at the same dues rate, would you still need to raise dues to afford the slightly larger versions of events or would the extra income be enough? You need a solid understanding of this issue that you can express to members.</p>
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